What you'll learn (fast):
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Why GMRS is the practical "bigger brother" to FRS: same 22 channels, different rules, more capability.
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The license is simple: $35, 10 years, one license covers your whole household (apply at FCC.gov).
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Range reality: terrain + antennas matter. Main channels allow up to 50W transmitter output; interstitials are lower.
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Privacy tones ≠ privacy. GMRS is open-air. You must ID every 15 minutes and at the end.
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Why certified radios matter (and why new FRS/GMRS combo handhelds aren't sold anymore).
Links & resources:
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Vetted Gear: Amazon GMRS List → https://www.amazon.com/shop/hamradio360/list/3NJ7FK9BFG6V9
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It is the prep comms podcast.
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Wow.
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Welcome in.
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I'm Caleb K4 CD and third cup of
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coffee.
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It's hot.
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Whoa, and My GMRS call sign is WRBR
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237.
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Thank you for coming by.
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I was not prepared for that sip of
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coffee as I pressed record And I am
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not changing it because what you see is
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what you get you guys.
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I appreciate you being here Honestly, and I'll
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lay off the coffee until we finish the
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program here We are going to start talking
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about GMRS the general mobile radio service here
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on the prep comms podcast We've talked how
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to listen to stuff.
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We've talked CB radio M.
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You are s radio We talked FRS radio
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most recently and now we're gonna talk about
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the big brother to FRS radio and the
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first cousin to CB radio Yeah, that's a
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great way to say it.
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So FRS radio is a little bubble pack
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radios.
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You buy cheap at Walmart You put about
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$14 worth of batteries in them and as
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long as your kids forget don't forget to
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turn them off They're fine.
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They work in the neighborhood.
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They work around the house.
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They work in the backyard Your kids have
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a lot of fun until the batteries die
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and then you put them in a drawer
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and you forget about them They are a
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great first step in the communications for preppers
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for families who won't stay connected when stuff
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happens If you want a little more actually
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a lot more capabilities, then you need to
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step up to their big brother the GMRS
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General mobile radio service now the crazy thing
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is they actually use the same frequencies as
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FRS radios But the FCC has given this
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user More power and you know with more
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power comes more responsibility.
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Yep Who was a peters uncle that said
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that can't remember his name because I'm not
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a huge spider-man fan But I tell
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my kids that all the time GMRS is
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a licensed two-way radio service for individuals
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and families and whoa Did you just say
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licensed?
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I did What does that mean it means
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you're going into a government database to utilize
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these radio frequencies legally Oh my gosh.
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I don't want to be a ham You're
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not This is not ham radio, but you
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will have to have a license that we'll
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talk about here in just a moment You
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see the FCC in the United States controls
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the radio spectrum and a lot of people
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don't like that and I can't say I'm
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the biggest fan but at the same time
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I appreciate some semblance of control or Making
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sure it's not a free for all because
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I mean Could you imagine if we had
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complete access to the entire radio spectrum And
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I was just broadcasting down here in 800
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megahertz band and you know the local sheriff's
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department's trying to use that as well And
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because I'm just down here blasting skillet You
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know on whomever's listening on 800 megahertz And
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my neighbor's being robbed and held at gunpoint,
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but the sheriff's officers can't talk to each
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other because you know They don't know that
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it's the best kept secret in our generation
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Is one of the best songs ever by
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skillet so I am I'm honestly quite thankful
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that we have some level of Accountability when
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it comes to the spectrum.
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I know a lot of a lot of
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people maybe even listen to this program.
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Don't it's okay We don't have to agree
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on everything but way back in the day
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like before me Well right about the time
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I showed up the FCC created a class
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of radio called class a class alpha cb
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class a citizens band They've changed it up
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as time has progressed and now this class
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a cb It lives under part 95 sub
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-party and if you're really bored or if
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you can't go to sleep at night Look
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it up.
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I'll put it in the show notes part
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95 sub-party It'll make sense of everything.
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I'm going to try to convey to you
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today FRS and GMRS radios the FRS we
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talked about the last time through we had
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a little mini series there we're going into
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this GMRS series and they share the same
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22 channels but GMRS allows you more power
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you can swap your antennas you can even
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use repeaters and you get 50 watts I
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said more power but I mean you get
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50 watts compared to what two or less
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So we talked about the FRS kind of
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giving you a bubble of communications You can
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talk around the backyard you can talk maybe
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around your little neighborhood If you guys go
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to a small amusement park you and your
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kids can chat at that point GMRS is
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not the little bubble anymore now we're talking
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county-wide communications If the infrastructure is there
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which we're going to talk about as this
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series goes through but you go from just
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backyard talk to neighborhood talk to from your
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house to the grocery store from your house
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to the fire department from your house to
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across the county to me mom's house whomever
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you're trying to talk to and of course
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we have to get back to licensing and
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regulation and responsibility for the end user and
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that leads us to the FCC again Now
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they did open these frequencies up back in
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the day and they're like we're going to
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allow people to use them and we're going
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to charge them They're not going to have
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to take a test but they are going
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to have to go on our database and
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they're going to give us money so when
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I got my WRBR 237 the GMRS fee
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was 70 bucks for 10 years yeah now
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it's 35 for 10 years that's not a
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bad deal when does the government ever cut
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their prices in half not very often unless
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they're sending you checks they'll send you any
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I'm not going there so you getting the
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license is really easy but you got to
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hear me there's so many people especially in
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preparedness that don't want to get their amateur
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radio license and I know that this isn't
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really the reason but this is the excuse
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a lot of people use I don't want
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to be in a government database okay get
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you I get it I don't have to
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take a test okay that's fine but if
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you're going to get your GMRS license you're
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going into a government database actually you're going
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into the same government database that I'm in
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as an amateur radio operator the same one
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that I'm in as a business itinerant radio
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operator and the same one I'm in as
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a fellow GMRS radio operator yeah you are
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it's the same database people can look you
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up if they want to look you up
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and whatever address you use they see your
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address you can see my post office box
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370 Pauline South Carolina 29374 a lot of
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people get hung up on this at least
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they have in the past and it kind
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of seems they still do but you got
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to understand something guys not very many people
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are going to go to the FCC.gov
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and try to find where people live because
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you can just type your name and address
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into a Google search bar and you're going
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to find sites like whitepages.com and they're
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going to have your name your spouse's name
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your previous address where you work your telephone
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number your email address they're going to have
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all that in there anyway so don't be
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fearful of the GMRS license don't be fearful
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of the business itinerant don't be fearful of
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the GMRS the ham guys you're on the
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internet you have smartphones they know everything you're
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doing they whomever you want to call they
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they do okay you're in the database if
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you're listening to the show you're in a
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database you're watching on youtube you're in a
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database if you're reading survival blog or if
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you're you know subscribe to a forward observer
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or if you're following grid base on instagram
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you're in a database okay okay okay everybody
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calm down it's not a big deal since
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it gets you legal on GMRS now a
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lot of people are like i don't care
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i'm still not going to get a license
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i'm not going to use it and you're
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going to get these radios and you're going
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to try to get on one of the
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local repeaters and without a call sign they're
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going to really frown on you they're going
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to frown on you because they've done the
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work they're supplying the infrastructure for you and
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your family to talk on all their asking
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is for you to be licensed legally and
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to use it with respect so it's definitely
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something to think about we're going to talk
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repeaters in another show but i just want
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to get that out there in this licensing
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and responsibility segment here it's a thirty five
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dollar fee your license lasts ten years again
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that's half what i paid and it covers
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your entire household now this is this is
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so cool because it's a little gray but
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really it's not that gray sub part 95
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sub-party when you read it i mean
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it's talking spouses kids parents in laws uncles
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well if it covers your uncle does it
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cover your nephew does it if it covers
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your uncle does it cover your cousin i
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mean it kind of sounds that way so
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you could you yourself could get this license
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and your whole family could operate under the
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license right that you bought for thirty five
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bucks for ten years now you have to
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and they have to and everyone who uses
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it have to follow the rules because you
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the guy who signed up and put your
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name and address on the fcc application and
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was approved for thirty five dollars you're responsible
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for proper operations at all times so you
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can tell your nephew freddy hey man i
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got these radios they work great around town
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and freddy's like oh man yeah i'm your
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nephew i can use them he's like yeah
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bro i mean hey use the radios and
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freddy's like a crack dealer and freddy's out
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using gmrs radios to coordinate his crack deals
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and he gets busted well i mean this
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probably wouldn't happen but if it did the
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possibility stands you get in in trouble because
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you the license holder are responsible for proper
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operations at all time so you know you
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may not want to get freddy or radio
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you might not even want to uh have
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your kids around freddy until he finds righteousness
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but uh yeah anyway if you have a
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license you are responsible for anyone who's utilizing
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it under your call sign for their proper
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operations at all time now your family members
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can operate and anybody who who stumbles by
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your station in an emergency can use it
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as well okay so you know that's the
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that's the we hear a lot of that
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and i don't want to go down the
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road too deep here but in an emergency
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i'll use anything i want to call anybody
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i want you can you can in a
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life or limb situation if it's a real
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emergency man if you have to call the
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djt and tell him to bring marine one
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to pick you up you do it i
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mean it's an emergency right life or limb
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is a real emergency you're you're out walking
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down the side of the road in in
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the desert of arizona and some guy comes
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by on a horse and accidentally knocks you
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over and knocks you out and uh he's
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no kin to you you don't know who
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he is it's total stranger but he sees
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you have a walkie talkie he can pick
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it up and call for help uh because
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he realizes this is an emergency there's no
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cell service and he can use it although
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he's not under your license that was a
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terrible analogy all right so back during hurricane
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helene we were out power for a whole
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week here at the farm except the generator
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we were hand pumping water um cell phone
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service sucked although it worked it still really
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sucked there's no data to be used at
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all and um if the generator wasn't running
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we had no star link at that time
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because they didn't have the batteries in place
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um anyway we had gmrs radios we had
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merge radios we used gmrs where their neighbors
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across the street both ladies and uh it
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worked great it worked great it was simplex
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you didn't use repeaters because we really can't
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get those from here we're too far away
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but um point to point the bubble gets
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bigger the better radios the better antennas all
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right gmrs is a great tool and we're
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going to keep talking about it here in
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just a second i want to tell you
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how to get your license for gmrs now
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when you're listening to this program we may
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still be at the time of the recording
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we are in a government shutdown right now
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and so the sec they're all on vacation
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not getting paid and they're not processing applications
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at this time they're not processing business itinerant
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they're not processing uh ham radio license and
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none of that said nothing's happening in the
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FCC offices right now i would imagine that
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the smoke detectors are still beeping and no
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one still changed the batteries it's kind of
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like that uh but you can still apply
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and when the system comes back online you're
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in the queue all right so family connect
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system dot com is a website that i
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have and it is a framework it's a
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system that you can use to build a
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entire family communication system to keep you and
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your your peeps connected when phones stop working
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and one of the parts of that is
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is a free guide i've written with the
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help of ai to to utilize ai utilize
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ai to help you get your gmrs license
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uh the fcc website let's just be frank
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in 2025 it sucks totally it looks like
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it was built in the 90s and it
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probably was it's not a lot of fun
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to get through especially if you've never been
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there but i've got i've got a free
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guide that you can get at familyconnectsystem.com
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forward slash gmrs so familyconnectsystem.com forward slash
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gmrs and this will actually walk you through
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step by step go here click that enter
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this press that button for you to get
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your gmrs license so you can go ahead
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and apply even now or if you're listening
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this later down the road if you're interested
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in your gmrs license it's free you just
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follow the prompts literally and it will get
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you there and get you licensed check it
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out familyconnectsystem.com forward slash gmrs the link
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will be in the show notes too by
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the way oh man you hear me say
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and it's kind of a misnomer and it
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really really lends more towards the the actual
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usage and what i hear on gmrs but
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i'll say from time to time that gmrs
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is the new cb radio sometimes i'll say
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it's cb radio with batteries well that's because
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back in the day i had a portable
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cb a handheld cb my brother had one
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but um they weren't as popular as the
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ones that we had in our cars because
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back then everybody drove all the time and
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you know we liked our freedom in america
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to just get on the highway uh now
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we just sit at home look at instagram
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anyway gmrs is not cb radio although it
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was initially cb radio what you and i
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think about when we think cb radio you
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know smoking the band at dukes of hazard
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um bj and the bear stuff like that
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we're thinking truckers and chatting on the highway
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and whatnot those radios talk on the 27
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megahertz band all right the gmrs frs runs
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in the 462 467 megahertz band the signal
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is a lot cleaner with gmrs it won't
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go as far but it will sound like
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it'll go further we'll talk about it as
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we go right uh another myth that you'll
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find in regards to these radios especially when
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they were first introduced and it's not as
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prevalent as it was but you're still going
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to see it and it's called marketing and
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marketing marketing does not equal physics okay uh
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some of these things say 36 mile radios
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some say 50 mile maximum range and yeah
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if you're out in you know the high
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plains and you're standing on a butte somewhere
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and you got a buddy on a butte
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over there you know 30 40 miles away
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it's nothing in between you except oxygen more
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than likely you can talk to each other
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but if you're in southwest Missouri and you're
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living life like the average american and there's
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houses and there's trees and there's buildings and
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there's there's rise you know there's valleys stuff
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in the way between you and your buddy
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you're not going to get 50 miles you
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can overcome physics so the great thing to
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kind of counter that with gmrs is that
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you are allowed up to 50 watts on
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some of the frequencies you are allowed to
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use repeaters on some of the frequencies so
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uh you just bear that in mind frs
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was like what max two watts you couldn't
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change the antenna you couldn't add an external
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antenna you couldn't have an elevated antenna gmrs
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allows you up to 50 watts you can
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do external antennas you can do our whips
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that we sell in the store you can
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do the roll up j pole type antennas
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you can do a base station antenna on
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a tower and you can do a repeater
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i mean it's so much more capable and
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for 35 bucks for 10 years it's probably
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the best deal going in regards to not
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having to take a test all right another
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thing to think about is you see on
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the box is you know uh 47 privacy
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tones and all this then adding what those
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what those privacy tones actually do let me
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just try to make it as simple as
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i can here because i know we have
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a broad audience um you program your radio
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you choose a setting in the little radio
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you bought from target and both both radios
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you get a other box you program them
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the same way so you choose privacy tone
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13 and you guys can talk back and
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forth to the two here anyone else man
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you're just like this is so great i
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don't hear anybody this is private communications i'm
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gonna tell my wife how hot no you
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you don't understand just because you can't hear
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anyone else doesn't mean everyone else can't hear
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you the privacy tone only in essence blocks
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what's your what your radio is receiving it's
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only allowing signals transmitted to it that have
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the same privacy tone enabled on their transmit
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so you have a receive tone enacted and
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they have a transmit tone enacted and vice
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versa and when they transmit it sends a
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subaudible tone that tells your radio hey it's
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time to listen and your radio can hear
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what's transmitted uh and so can everyone else
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because there's no privacy on a public radio
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and that's what gmrs it's wide open public
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everybody can hear everything you're saying okay just
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because you can't hear them doesn't mean they
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can't hear you all right you can encrypt
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you can't encrypt you cannot use encryption on
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gmrs you can't play music okay you can't
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run commercials you can't run commercials for politics
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i mean it's just it's public radio that
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anyone can hear okay got to know that
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um you have to identify your call sign
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so when you get your license through the
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FCC once they go back to work you
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will be issued a license mine again is
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WRBR237 so if you're using your radios and
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having a conversation you have to use your
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call sign WRBR237 every 15 minutes and when
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you hang up or at the end of
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the conversation okay so i would come on
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and say this is WRBR237 anyone listening and
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Andy may come on and say hey this
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is WRBR454 what's happening and i'm like hey
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dude how's it going it's great we're talking
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along 15 minutes shows up hey this is
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WRBR237 oh reminder this is WRBR454 we covered
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it we're legal all right dude this great
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chatting with you you know we're 20 minutes
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in the convo and i'm like we're saying
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goodbye and it's like we'll talk to you
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later man WRBR237 and you let go and
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that's the end of the conversation he identifies
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at the end of his last transmission and
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everybody's legal you have to identify your call
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sign every 15 minutes so back in the
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day CB radio the trucker radios they had
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a license they had to follow and then
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the FCC's like nobody's doing this this is
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just extra paperwork for us so they scrapped
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that and people started using what they call
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a handle a CB radio handle like smokey
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you know anyway there's some great handles out
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there we don't go in there we've already
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talked CB but now with GMRS you don't
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really have a handle you have your call
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sign so some people may be like 237
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instead of the WRBR but you need to
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at least lead in close with that okay
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it's not really gray the rules are pretty
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specific i'm just telling you what i've heard
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locally i don't talk a lot on GMRS
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because it is limited in my area except
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you know like on my farm but to
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other people and it's just not it's a
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great service for people who aren't hand radios
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operators you have to use plain language now
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you can say 10-4 or i'm 10
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-60 of the area or 10-9 can
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you repeat or man my new radios 10
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-8 is in service you can use those
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but you can't you can't misconstrue what you're
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saying you you can't encrypt you can't hide
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stuff legally on GMRS okay i gotta have
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to have to say it encourage you to
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use only FCC certified equipment back in the
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day when the GMRS and FRS came out
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they would make a radio that was FRS
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and GMRS and since 2019 they're like now
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we're done with that we're not going to
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let you make those anymore because what was
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happening is people were using the GMRS output
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power on the FRS frequencies which you know
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just broke the law so they are the
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rules and they've just decided if you want
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FRS you can get those ultra low power
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radios for you and your backyard if you
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want to pay the 35 bucks and go
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legal with higher power bigger antennas and whatever
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GMRS okay you can find these on Amazon
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i've got them in my store the beat
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beat tech makes a really good one it's
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based on the UV-82 chassis which is
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one of my favorite handheld radios works really
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good and it's just a bare bones GMRS
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radio it's rugged a little rugged it's not
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waterproof or anything although you can find those
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we've got them in the store in the
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show note links i'm sure but you know
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a lot of people don't need that a
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lot of people don't plan on you know
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traips into the woods and lying down in
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the mud and being out in the rain
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they're just looking for something to get for
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their kids so there's again like FRS there's
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something for everyone GMRS there's something for everyone
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it's it's not called family radio but man
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it sure works great for families it's not
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called prepper radio but it really works great
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for preppers and i've found a lot of
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preppers are family folks and they're just they're
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doing what they're doing on behalf of their
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family GMRS is very simple it's easy to
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be legal and i'm telling you the wattage
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output with the external antennas the ability to
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elevate antennas to have a 50 watt mobile
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radio in your car with a good antenna
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wow man i'll tell you it changes everything
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so again i've got a link in the
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show notes to how to get your GMRS
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license and we're going to talk about that
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maybe a little bit more next week and
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talk about how it actually covers your whole
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family but you can get the the guide
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there it's free you just just jump over
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to the website signing in it'll send you
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the the props but it's familykinicsystem.com forward
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slash GMRS i might have gone a little
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longer than normal this time but i appreciate
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you being here it's nice to be back
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this is not a one-shot deal we're
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going to spend some time here really getting
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into the weeds in regards to GMRS because
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it is really the best thing going for
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families and preppers who don't want to take
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a test okay set it out loud thank
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you for listening i'm calib nelson k4 CDN
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WRBR 237 and other calls that i can't
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remember because i don't have to use them
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as often but you can find us at
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prepcoms.com we're on youtube like and all
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that stuff if you will or your favorite
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pod player and don't forget we got all
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the stuff there in the blog and on
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the show notes so thank you for stopping
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by again i'm calib i appreciate your time
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i wish you well and i look forward
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to catching up with you next time send
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me three y'all god bless